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15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by gauravtyagigmat Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:14 pm

While digging in the Egyptian desert, huge fossil bones have been found by paleontologists,which appears to have been the second most massive dinosaur that ever lived.
A. huge fossil bones have been found by paleontologists, which appears to have been
B. huge fossil bones have been found by paleontologists, which appear to be from
C. it appears that paleontologists have found huge fossil bones that are from
D. paleontologists have found huge fossil bones from what appears to be
E. paleontologists have found huge fossil bones, which are from what appear to be

Why option C is wrong.I marked C because chapter pronoun and modifier in SC guide explains a concept known as placeholder it.In which we can use "it" as subject with any antecedents

2. is "that are from the second most massive dinosaur that ever lived " is incorrect because bones of diasaur is correct. "from" usage is wrong here
Please correct me if i am wrong
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by RonPurewal Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:39 am

gauravtyagigmat Wrote:While digging in the Egyptian desert, huge fossil bones have been found by paleontologists,which appears to have been the second most massive dinosaur that ever lived.
A. huge fossil bones have been found by paleontologists, which appears to have been
B. huge fossil bones have been found by paleontologists, which appear to be from
C. it appears that paleontologists have found huge fossil bones that are from
D. paleontologists have found huge fossil bones from what appears to be
E. paleontologists have found huge fossil bones, which are from what appear to be

Why option C is wrong.I marked C because chapter pronoun and modifier in SC guide explains a concept known as placeholder it.In which we can use "it" as subject with any antecedents

"While digging in the desert" describes paleontologists, and so must be followed by "paleontologists".
That doesn't happen in C, so C is wrong.


2. is "that are from the second most massive dinosaur that ever lived " is incorrect because bones of diasaur is correct. "from" usage is wrong here


1/
If something appears in a correct answer ... it's not wrong. Period, end of story.
Don't waste time fighting the correct answers. They're ... the correct answers.

2/
"X is incorrect because Y is correct" is not a thing.
Most things -- in just about all languages -- can be written in multiple ways. If one version is correct, that doesn't mean another version isn't.
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by gauravtyagigmat Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:21 pm

What is the difference in the meaning between following two sentences

Balls are from big red color basket

Balls are of big red color basket





Ron Wrote:2/
"X is incorrect because Y is correct" is not a thing.
Most things -- in just about all languages -- can be written in multiple ways. If one version is correct, that doesn't mean another version isn't.


sir
I dont get what you are trying to say in the above comment
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by RonPurewal Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:27 am

gauravtyagigmat Wrote:What is the difference in the meaning between following two sentences

Balls are from big red color basket

Balls are of big red color basket


If the sentence is supposed to mean that the balls have been taken from a big basket that is red, then the first one is better. There are still issues (you're still missing "the" in front of "balls", and either "the" or "a" in front of "...basket"; also, you should just have "red", not "red color").

The second one wouldn't make sense in any reasonable context.


Ron Wrote:2/
"X is incorrect because Y is correct" is not a thing.
Most things -- in just about all languages -- can be written in multiple ways. If one version is correct, that doesn't mean another version isn't.


sir
I dont get what you are trying to say in the above comment


Lots of things can be correct in more than one way.
If you see a correct version of something, you cannot conclude that all other versions are incorrect.
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by gauravtyagigmat Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:37 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
gauravtyagigmat Wrote:What is the difference in the meaning between following two sentences

Balls are from big red color basket

Balls are of big red color basket


If the sentence is supposed to mean that the balls have been taken from a big basket that is red, then the first one is better. There are still issues (you're still missing "the" in front of "balls", and either "the" or "a" in front of "...basket"; also, you should just have "red", not "red color").

The second one wouldn't make sense in any reasonable context.


Ron Wrote:2/
"X is incorrect because Y is correct" is not a thing.
Most things -- in just about all languages -- can be written in multiple ways. If one version is correct, that doesn't mean another version isn't.


sir
I dont get what you are trying to say in the above comment


Lots of things can be correct in more than one way.
If you see a correct version of something, you cannot conclude that all other versions are incorrect.


thanks a lot for reply
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by RonPurewal Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:25 am

Sure.
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by krrishna.chirumamilla Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:24 am

What's wrong with E?

paleontologists have found huge fossil bones, which are from what appear to be

I did not find it very much different from correct option D

paleontologists have found huge fossil bones from what appears to be

Which in E refers to fossil bones. So in short fossil bones are from what appears to be xyz

D is also stating the same thing. fossil bones from what appears to be xyz

I chose D only because it is concise than E. Is this the only correct reason for eliminating E or are there any other reasons we can consider to eliminate E?

Please help. Thanks
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by tim Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:07 am

"appear" versus "appears". Subject-verb agreement.

By the way, concision is NEVER a reason to choose one answer over another. NEVER. No matter what the GMAT says, and no matter what you read elsewhere, there has NEVER been a documented case of a question that could only be answered on the basis of concision. There is ALWAYS another reason, such as the one I demonstrated above.
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by krrishna.chirumamilla Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:26 pm

tim Wrote:"appear" versus "appears". Subject-verb agreement.

By the way, concision is NEVER a reason to choose one answer over another. NEVER. No matter what the GMAT says, and no matter what you read elsewhere, there has NEVER been a documented case of a question that could only be answered on the basis of concision. There is ALWAYS another reason, such as the one I demonstrated above.


Aaaaah! I missed a very easy point here. Now I feel sheepish.

But it's good to know the point about concision. Thanks Tim :)
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by JIYUS618 Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:01 pm

In choice D:

paleontologists have found huge fossil bones from what appears to be the second most massive dinosaur.

"what" refers to what?the...dinosaur?
then the sentence turns to be paleontologists have found huge fossil bones from the...dinosaur appears to be the...dinosaur?
is it strange?
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by RonPurewal Thu May 01, 2014 9:05 am

"What" doesn't stand for another noun in the sentence.
In fact, the whole purpose of "what", in this kind of usage, is to refer to something that is not specifically named in the sentence.

E.g.,
I don't know what you bought at the store.
Please tell me what you did last night.


Etc.
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by JIYUS618 Thu May 01, 2014 10:49 am

RonPurewal Wrote:"What" doesn't stand for another noun in the sentence.
In fact, the whole purpose of "what", in this kind of usage, is to refer to something that is not specifically named in the sentence.

E.g.,
I don't know what you bought at the store.
Please tell me what you did last night.


Etc.


Thank you!!
And i still have a problem:
1.paleontologists have found huge fossil bones from what appears to be
2.I don't know what you bought at the store.
3.Please tell me what you did last night.[/i]
1."what" indicates the things (paleontologists have did)
2."what" indicates the things( you bought)
3."what" indicates the things( you did)
am I right?

And which is the subject of" appears to be the second most massive dinosaur" How do I recognize??

Thank you in advance.
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by RonPurewal Sun May 04, 2014 12:14 pm

Basically, this thing comes in two varieties.

1/
"what + subject + verb" (in which "what" is the object)
e.g.,
Show me what you bought at the store.

2/
"what + verb" (in which "what" is the subject)
e.g.,
I don't know what makes that noise in the furnace closet.

This one ("what appears to be...") is an example of #2.
Hope that helps.
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by RonPurewal Sun May 04, 2014 12:14 pm

How do I recognize??

#1 and #2 above are the only two things "what" can do in the middle of the sentence. At least, I can't immediately think of any others, unless the sentence is a question. (SC sentences are never questions.)

So, if you learn these 2 functions, you shouldn't have a very hard time recognizing what "what" is trying to do.
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Re: 15 nov 2013: While digging in the Egyptian desert

by gauravsaxena21 Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:28 pm

Hi Ron,

2/
"what + verb" (in which "what" is the subject)
e.g.,

So can we say in this case Verb form will always be singular.
Ex: AppearS