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Re: CR- test 4 v24

by divineacclivity Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:40 pm

tim Wrote: i looked this up in the strategy guide, and it says "Negating the correct answer should actually weaken the author's conclusion" (p.102). i will say that in most cases i've seen, negating the correct answer renders the conclusion impossible, but if you can't find this in the answer choices, at least look for the one that most weakens the conclusion (i.e. renders it most unlikely)..


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Re: CR- test 4 v24

by tim Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:34 am

glad you found this information to be helpful..
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Re: CR- test 4 v24

by duyng9989 Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:12 pm

tim Wrote:We are definitely going to want to apply the negation rule because we are asked for an assumption that is necessary. Negating A - assuming hey cannot get the required permits - negates only the hypothetical portion of the conclusion and not the conclusion itself. If it proves impossible to get the permits, that doesn't change the fact that opening a factory would increase profits. I'm sure this is what the question writers had in mind. However, I will say that this is a close call because of the wording of the question (including use of the word "current" in answer choice C). The bottom line is that you have applied sound reasoning to this problem, which is the real goal of questions like this rather than knowing whether you got it right. :)



Hi.

I have a question about the problem here:

In Manhattan GMAT book, Critical reasoning - Assumption part, there is one type of assumptions that can establish the feasibility of the premises of the argument.

One example cited is:

Sidney's get-rich-quick scheme is sure to succeed. He will buy undervalued properties in foreclosure. Then he will resell the properties to a local real estate developer and generate large profits.

The argument assumes that undervalued properties in foreclosure actually exist and that Sidney can find them.

Why the feasibility assumption not apply in here?

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Re: CR- test 4 v24

by tim Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:10 am

Is there any reason to believe that feasibility is NOT in play here? If you looked at this one from a feasibility standpoint, I think you'd get the same answer, right?
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Re: CR- test 4 v24

by duyng9989 Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:05 pm

tim Wrote:Is there any reason to believe that feasibility is NOT in play here? If you looked at this one from a feasibility standpoint, I think you'd get the same answer, right?


Please spend some times and read the two examples. Don't you see the analogy between two example?

In ManhattanGmat example: Assumption is the validation of the feasibility of the plan: foreclosure properties exist and you can buy it.

In the question being discussed here: If we do not have the feasibility that the permits are attainable, we cannot say about profit. Exactly the same logic line as Manhattan Gmat example.

WHY? In the question discussed here, choice A is incorrect.

I hope you follow me. Sorry, but I see your responses are very short and kind of perfunctory.

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Re: CR- test 4 v24

by jnelson0612 Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:55 am

duyng9989 Wrote:
tim Wrote:Is there any reason to believe that feasibility is NOT in play here? If you looked at this one from a feasibility standpoint, I think you'd get the same answer, right?


Please spend some times and read the two examples. Don't you see the analogy between two example?

In ManhattanGmat example: Assumption is the validation of the feasibility of the plan: foreclosure properties exist and you can buy it.

In the question being discussed here: If we do not have the feasibility that the permits are attainable, we cannot say about profit. Exactly the same logic line as Manhattan Gmat example.

WHY? In the question discussed here, choice A is incorrect.

I hope you follow me. Sorry, but I see your responses are very short and kind of perfunctory.

Thank you.


They really are quite different examples. In the example in our book about the real estate, I read through that and think WHOA! Every one of these premises may not be correct. Every premise reads like an assumption in itself. That is a good time to consider the feasibility of the premises.

In this case, the only premise is that there is a heavy tariff in Country X. That is a fact and there is no feasibility problem there. Instead of worrying about all of this, I should break down the argument this way:

Conclusion: Company Y can increase profits by opening a factory in X to manufacture the goods it currently produces in its home country for sale in X.
WHY?
Premise: Country X imposes heavy tariffs on imported manufactured goods.
Assumption: Okay, if I do this, I better make sure that I can actually SELL the products I make in my country in Country X and obtain revenue. That is more important than worrying about anything else at the moment.

Here's a tip . . . when the GMAT asks questions about profit, they are always using the equation Profit = Revenue - Cost. They frequently test to be sure that people understand that there is no profit without revenue, and that you must have revenue to have profitability.
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Re: CR- test 4 v24

by jnelson0612 Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:36 pm

Also, please see Ron's take on this: tarrifs-t7699.html
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