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FDP pg 91 qn 3

by SherryK835 Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:36 am

How do you solve this question without choosing a smart number? There has to be a way to solve the algebraic equations without plugging in a integer value for the monthly paychecks.

Question from book:
Lisa spends 3/8 of her monthly paycheck on rent and 5/12 on food. Her roommate, Carie, who earns twice as much as Lisa, spends 1/4 of her monthly paycheck on rent and 1/2 on food. If the two women decide to donate the remainder of their money to charity each month, what fraction of their combined monthly income will they donate?



This is where I got to so far:
PL and CL refer to Lisa's Paycheck and Charitable contibutions
PC and CC refer to Carrie's

PL=(19+CL)/24
PC=(3+CC)/4
PC=2PL

We need to find CL+CC

Total Income (TI) = PC + 2PL

I've tried many iterations at this point but keep getting lost.

Thanks for your help!
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Re: FDP pg 91 qn 3

by tim Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:02 am

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Re: FDP pg 91 qn 3

by SherryK835 Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:23 am

Thank you Tim, I just edited my post and added the full question from the book.

My question was how to solve it algebraically without plugging in numbers.
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Re: FDP pg 91 qn 3

by RonPurewal Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:19 am

the problem asks for a fraction of the two women's combined income.

thus, if you want to use algebra, it's most sensible to define a variable for that combined income.
say 'x' = combined income

then, since carrie earns twice as much as lisa, carrie's income is 2x/3, and lisa's is x/3.
now take the appropriate fractions of these, and go from there.
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Re: FDP pg 91 qn 3

by SherryK835 Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:31 pm

Thank you Ron.

The answer in the book is 17/72. I tried with equating the combined income to x, and therefore Lisa as 1/3x and Carrie 2/3x. I am getting 14/72

Lisa Charity = 1/3 * [1-(3/8 + 5/12)] = 5/72
Carrie Charity = 2/3 * [1-(1/4+1/2)] = 1/6

1/6 + 5/72 = 14/72

Where am I making a mistake?
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Re: FDP pg 91 qn 3

by RonPurewal Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:45 pm

1/6 is equal to 12/72. you seem to have converted it into 9/72 by mistake.

watch your arithmetic!
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Re: FDP pg 91 qn 3

by SherryK835 Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:08 pm

Thanks Ron. I'm embarrassed I made such a mistake.
Appreciate all your help on this one!
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Re: FDP pg 91 qn 3

by RonPurewal Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:56 am

i make arithmetic mistakes all the time. especially subtraction-- i'd say i make mistakes on somewhere between 10 and 20 percent of all subtraction operations i ever do.

the point here is just to be aware of the mistakes that YOU typically make.
this is just like any other form of self-awareness: you just have to know your own skill set—both strengths and weaknesses—which won't be the same as anyone else's.
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Re: FDP pg 91 qn 3

by RonPurewal Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:56 am

in fact, your skill set is likely to have VERY specific quirks, attributable to the particulars of your own background.
in my case, for instance, i can perform the following mental operations flawlessly:
* addition
* multiplication by 4, 5, 7, and 9
* division by 4, 5, and 7
in each case there are specific reasons. e.g., i've kept more than 10 years' worth of food diaries, which entail multiplying pretty much everything by 4 and 9 (= calories/gram of carb/protein and fat, respectively) and then adding the results. so that's the provenance of the 4's and 9's. the other numbers are schedule-related.

with any other operation, i have to double- and perhaps even triple-check.

of course the point is not 'ron has a really weird skill set'; the same is almost certainly true for anyone else who wrangles with numbers on a regular basis.
the point is 'ron knows where he NEEDS to be more or less careful'. this is a key component of efficiency: exercise extra diligence where extra diligence is actually necessary.


in my case, for instance, i know that i just have to double-check every time i do subtraction. (by contrast, after keeping food diaries for more than 10 years, i pretty much never make mistakes with mental addition, or with multiplication by 4 or 9.)
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Re: FDP pg 91 qn 3

by SherryK835 Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:01 pm

Excellent advice. Thank you. As I take the GMAT class and go through the homework, I have started to become more aware of what my weaknesses are with the GMAT and trying to spend more time reviewing/ practicing those types of questions.
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Re: FDP pg 91 qn 3

by RonPurewal Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:01 am

great!