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Geometry Data Sufficency

by veronica1 Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:53 pm

I don't understand how the assumption is made for statement one is made on a right triangle. That how does knowing one side is 9 yield a range of 31 to 49 for the other side. The square root of 1519 of 38.97... 1519 = (40)sq + (9)sq


In triangle XYZ, the length of side XY is 40. Is triangle XYZ a right triangle?

(1) The length of side YZ is 9.

(2) The length of side XZ is 41.

Statement (1): We are told that the length of side YZ is 9. This sets the range for possible lengths of the third side: 31 < XZ < 49. This range includes two configurations that would result in triangle XYZ being a right triangle but many more that would not.
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Re: Geometry Data Sufficency

by frankiesteinster Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:23 am

Its hard to understand here how option 1 is enough to prove that it is a right angle triangle. Does the question has a diagram or some other information associated?

If this is the question, then answer should be C because sq(9) + sq(40) = sq (41).

Just to explain you what they mean in explanation " This sets the range for possible lengths of the third side: 31 < XZ < 49. "
"Sum of 2 sides of a triangle is always greater than the third"

which means XZ < (40+9) and greater than a value such that XZ+9 >40 => XZ>31
So, 31<XZ<49
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Re: Geometry Data Sufficency

by veronica1 Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:54 am

How do we come up with the number 31 and 49?

frankiesteinster Wrote:Its hard to understand here how option 1 is enough to prove that it is a right angle triangle. Does the question has a diagram or some other information associated?

If this is the question, then answer should be C because sq(9) + sq(40) = sq (41).

Just to explain you what they mean in explanation " This sets the range for possible lengths of the third side: 31 < XZ < 49. "
"Sum of 2 sides of a triangle is always greater than the third"

which means XZ < (40+9) and greater than a value such that XZ+9 >40 => XZ>31
So, 31<XZ<49
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Re: Geometry Data Sufficency

by atharshiraz Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:12 pm

veronica1 Wrote:How do we come up with the number 31 and 49?

frankiesteinster Wrote:Just to explain you what they mean in explanation " This sets the range for possible lengths of the third side: 31 < XZ < 49. "
"Sum of 2 sides of a triangle is always greater than the third"

which means XZ < (40+9) and ...



As "frank" mentioned.

If x,y,z are the vertices of a triangle and we know sides XY and YZ then side XZ is simply :

|XY - YZ |< XZ < (XY + YZ)

This theorem is given in the "geometry" guide.

So if you know two sides (40 and 9) then you can come up with a range for the third side XZ :
|40-9|< XZ < (40+9)
31 < XZ < 49

That is how you get the range 31 to 49.
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Re: Geometry Data Sufficency

by krishnan.anju1987 Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:21 am

Consider it this way, one side is x and the other sides as mentioned in the statement are 40 and 9. Now triangle inequality states that the sun of two sides must be greater than the third side.

This implies

40+9>x i.e 49>x
9+x>40 i.e x>31
40+x>9 which will always be true for any value of x unless x is negative which is not possible..


Thus, if three sides x,y,z exist and z is unknown and x and y are known, then |x-y| < z < |x+y|
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Re: Geometry Data Sufficency

by jnelson0612 Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:34 pm

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