Verbal problems from the *free* official practice tests and
problems from mba.com
vishscor
Course Students
 
Posts: 5
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:57 pm
 

Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by vishscor Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:12 am

The Gorton-Dodd bill requires that a bank disclose to their customers how long they will delay access to funds from deposited checks.

(A) that a bank disclose to their customers how long they will delay access to funds from deposited checks
(B) a bank to disclose to their customers how long they will delay access to funds from a deposited check
(C) that a bank disclose to its customers how long it will delay access to funds from deposited checks
(D) a bank that it should disclose to its customers how long it will delay access to funds from a deposited
check
(E) that banks disclose to customers how long access to funds from their deposited check is to be delayed


In this question, we know that the correct answer is C because of subjunctive mood. But how is that possible? If you go by the rule of pronouns, each pronoun can refer to only one antecedent in the sentence. But in answer choice (C), "its" and "it" both refer to the bank. How is that possible? Have I understood the concept incorrectly? Also, how is the subjunctive mood being used here? I do not see the rule being applied as "requires that" + be

Thanks for all the help.

Thanks,
Vishal
sanyalpritish
Students
 
Posts: 54
Joined: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:36 pm
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by sanyalpritish Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:58 pm

In the answers only A,C & E are possible because of "that", in E usage of their points to Banks or customers can't say.
A the same problem their Banks or Customers hence you are left with C now how bad it may be this is the answer
RonPurewal
Students
 
Posts: 19744
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:23 am
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by RonPurewal Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:42 am

vishscor Wrote:The Gorton-Dodd bill requires that a bank disclose to their customers how long they will delay access to funds from deposited checks.

(A) that a bank disclose to their customers how long they will delay access to funds from deposited checks
(B) a bank to disclose to their customers how long they will delay access to funds from a deposited check
(C) that a bank disclose to its customers how long it will delay access to funds from deposited checks
(D) a bank that it should disclose to its customers how long it will delay access to funds from a deposited
check
(E) that banks disclose to customers how long access to funds from their deposited check is to be delayed


In this question, we know that the correct answer is C because of subjunctive mood. But how is that possible? If you go by the rule of pronouns, each pronoun can refer to only one antecedent in the sentence. But in answer choice (C), "its" and "it" both refer to the bank. How is that possible? Have I understood the concept incorrectly? Also, how is the subjunctive mood being used here? I do not see the rule being applied as "requires that" + be

Thanks for all the help.

Thanks,
Vishal


yes, you have TOTALLY misunderstood the "rule". just curious -- where did you encounter this "rule" (or at least what you mistook for it)? ... because it seems that you have internalized EXACTLY the opposite of the actual rule!

in fact, if you encounter the same pronoun twice in a clause, it MUST stand for the same noun both times, unless there are very clear grammatical demarcations that indicate otherwise.
sachin.w
Forum Guests
 
Posts: 173
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:29 am
Location: Bangalore
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by sachin.w Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:02 am

will the below be a correct answer choice?

that banks disclose to customers how long access to funds from their deposited checks is to be delayed
thanghnvn
Prospective Students
 
Posts: 711
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:09 pm
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by thanghnvn Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:29 am

E is incorrect because "is to be" change the meaning of the original?

is that right?
jlucero
Forum Guests
 
Posts: 1102
Joined: Wed May 12, 2010 1:33 am
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by jlucero Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:17 pm

The error in E is not check/checks, as thanghnvn mentioned, it's the verb change "is to be delayed".

Your access is to be delayed. (bad)
Your access will be delayed. (acceptable)
Joe Lucero
Manhattan GMAT Instructor
eva.sunrong
Forum Guests
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:27 pm
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by eva.sunrong Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:37 am

Dear Manhattan teacher,

I have a question about the answer C.

Should it be " that a bank disclose(s) to its customers how long it will delay access to funds from deposited checks" ?
Is that correct to use "disclose" instead of "discloses"? Because the singular subject "a bank" should need a singular verb "discloses", isn't it?

Thanks in advanced,
Eva
RonPurewal
Students
 
Posts: 19744
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:23 am
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by RonPurewal Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:42 pm

eva.sunrong Wrote:Dear Manhattan teacher,

I have a question about the answer C.

Should it be " that a bank disclose(s) to its customers how long it will delay access to funds from deposited checks" ?
Is that correct to use "disclose" instead of "discloses"? Because the singular subject "a bank" should need a singular verb "discloses", isn't it?

Thanks in advanced,
Eva


check out the "command subjunctive" section in the MGMAT SC guide.
eva.sunrong
Forum Guests
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:27 pm
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by eva.sunrong Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:30 am

RonPurewal Wrote:
eva.sunrong Wrote:Dear Manhattan teacher,

I have a question about the answer C.

Should it be " that a bank disclose(s) to its customers how long it will delay access to funds from deposited checks" ?
Is that correct to use "disclose" instead of "discloses"? Because the singular subject "a bank" should need a singular verb "discloses", isn't it?

Thanks in advanced,
Eva


check out the "command subjunctive" section in the MGMAT SC guide.


Got it. Thanks a lot.
tim
Course Students
 
Posts: 5665
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:08 am
Location: Southwest Airlines, seat 21C
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by tim Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:41 am

:)
Tim Sanders
Manhattan GMAT Instructor

Follow this link for some important tips to get the most out of your forum experience:
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/forums/a-few-tips-t31405.html
HemantR606
Students
 
Posts: 63
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:16 pm
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by HemantR606 Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:20 am

Does the switch between 'checks' and 'a check' really matters in this question?

For me both of them seem to be fine. But I don't have a clear point to support my assumption.


Please comment.



----------------------
Thanks,
Hemant
RonPurewal
Students
 
Posts: 19744
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:23 am
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by RonPurewal Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:10 pm

this is a problem in choice E, which says "their check"--implying, absurdly enough, that all of the bank's customers share a single check.

note that the problem is not the singular "check" per se; the problem lies in the combination of "their" and "check". (a more abstract formation, like "a check" in choice B, is not incorrect.)
aflaamM589
Students
 
Posts: 348
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:48 am
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by aflaamM589 Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:54 am

sorry to dig this old one.
Is redundancy in D also an error?
require...should.

Thanks in advance.
Have a nice day everyone.
RonPurewal
Students
 
Posts: 19744
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:23 am
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by RonPurewal Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:18 am

yes.
aflaamM589
Students
 
Posts: 348
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:48 am
 

Re: Gorton - Dodd Bill ?

by aflaamM589 Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:08 pm

Thanks for the reply
Allow me to ask another question regarding the concep discussed above( a cheque vs cheque)
Govt. awarded Joe grant to study the eating habits of the kinkajou, arboreal mamals found in equador
vs
Govt. awarded Joe grant to study the eating habits of the kinkajou, arboreal mamal found in equador
vs
Govt. awarded Joe grant to study the eating habits of the kinkajou, an arboreal mamal found in equador

are all correct?
also
Joe and Jain decided to become a dancer. --> is this correct?
Joe and Jain decided to become dancers---> or this one is correct?


Thank you very very very much Ron
Have a nice day