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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by vinny4nyc Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:07 pm

Hi
Why is Option
c) Although United States voters agree

Wrong?.
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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by RonPurewal Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:28 am

vinny4nyc Wrote:Hi
Why is Option
c) Although United States voters agree

Wrong?.


* you should have "that" after "agree" here.
* this choice creates an entirely new meaning, which doesn't make much sense.
the original sentence states that, however much people may agree that xxxxx (i.e., it's not actually certain how much they agree), it's hard to find support for yyyy.
with this choice, the sentence instead states that people definitely agree that xxxxx. if that's the situation, then the statement in the second half of the sentence -- that it's still difficult to find support for yyyyy -- isn't very logical.
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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by riderofthestorm Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:09 am

Dictionary.com defines "However much" as "Even though", so I guess much does not refer to anything in sentence but it is simply used that way.
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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by tim Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:36 am

Please avoid referring to outside sources for grammar information; the GMAT makes its own rules, and all the information in the world from other sources won't raise your score if you rely on their rules rather than the GMAT's rules to solve SC problems.
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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by riderofthestorm Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:29 am

tim Wrote:Please avoid referring to outside sources for grammar information; the GMAT makes its own rules, and all the information in the world from other sources won't raise your score if you rely on their rules rather than the GMAT's rules to solve SC problems.


Hi tim,

I will keep that in mind, should we even avoid the dictionary definitions?

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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by tim Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:19 pm

Yes; it's generally a waste of time (and often antiproductive) to use any outside resources for SC, unless you are consulting a dictionary because you honestly don't even know what a word means.
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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by yuanyue92 Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:34 pm

Does despite or although or even though change the meaning of the original however much?
In the explanation by OG, it seems like that the meaning of the original sentence was distorted just because of the missing word may. Choice D has may, and OG explanation doesn't say D distorts the original meaning.

Thanks very much!
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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by yuanyue92 Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:05 pm

yuanyue92 Wrote:Does despite or although or even though change the meaning of the original however much?
In the explanation by OG, it seems like that the meaning of the original sentence was distorted just because of the missing word may. Choice D has may, and OG explanation doesn't say D distorts the original meaning.

Thanks very much!


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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by RonPurewal Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:27 am

"However much X happens" = "regardless of the degree to which X happens". There's no implication that X will happen to a great degree, or at all.

"Although / even though X happens" = X actually happens, but, despite X, something is true.

E.g.,
However much you may betray me, I will still love you
--> I'll still love you IF you betray me, even to a great degree. But you might not betray me at all.

Even though you betrayed me, I still love you
--> You betrayed me. I still love you.

Even though you may betray me, I will still love you
--> It's not unlikely that you will betray me. But, if you do, I will still love you.
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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by yuanyue92 Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:08 pm

Thanks:)
I was impolite again in the post. Sorry for that. I didn't mean it.
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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by RonPurewal Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:57 am

No worries.
Just remember that, if you post on the thread again, we'll take longer to get to it!
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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by RichaChampion Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:52 am

Ron,

I still can't understand why E is wrong. E sounds much better than A. Thanks!
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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by tim Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:57 pm

Okay this is the surest sign that you will not be able to rely on your ear to answer these questions, so make sure to learn your grammar rules THOROUGHLY. To me E sounds terrible, because it contains a comma splice - two sentences joined with nothing more than a comma. This is not permitted and is what makes E wrong.
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Re: However much United States voters may agree that.....

by RonPurewal Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:32 am

...and E contains no indication whatsoever of the contrast between the two ideas.
that contrast is the entire point of the sentence, so there definitely must be a word that signals it.