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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by s.ashwin.rao Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:22 am

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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by RonPurewal Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:23 am

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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by eybrj2 Thu May 03, 2012 5:41 am

The reason that b is wrong is a bad parallel.
How about "well known as much x as y"?


legitimate -- provided, of course, that two things happen:
1/
you need to take out "well" -- as it stands right now, the construction is redundant. you only need "as well known..." or "known as much...", not both.
2/
"x" and "y" must actually be parallel constructions.

If b were "well known as much for having~ as making ~", would b be correct? or still incorrect?


incorrect. in fact, your own "formula" (with the x and y in it) demonstrates exactly why.
in your "formula", this example has
x = for having...
y = making...
oops, not parallel.

there's also the "well" that needs to be removed.

Also, what's the difference between "well known as much x as y" and "as well known x as y" in terms of grammer or meaning?

the first is redundant; if "well" is removed, there is essentially no difference in either sense.
most good writers would probably opt for the latter construction -- because "well known" is a phrase that is well known (ha!) and commonly used in english -- but that sort of writerly stuff is obviously not going to be tested on this exam.
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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by RonPurewal Wed May 16, 2012 7:18 am

my mistake, i accidentally hit "edit" instead of "reply". luckily, i preserved the essential parts of the post to which i was responding.
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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by supratim7 Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:06 pm

I missed this one because I ruled out D & E on "meaning" grounds. I thought following 2 constructions have different meaning.

Patience Lovell Wright became well known as much for X as for Y.
Patience Lovell Wright became as well known for X as for Y.


Lost on this one. Someone pls help/clarify.
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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by jlucero Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:45 pm

Either one of those idioms is correct; the issue is that the X and Y in A-D are not parallel. Ron detailed above why each one isn't parallel.
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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by supratim7 Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:18 pm

Thank you Joe :)
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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by tim Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:59 am

:)
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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by rajkiranmareedu Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:46 pm

became well known

become as well know.

Could someone explain the difference between these two in the question.


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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by RonPurewal Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:02 am

rajkiranmareedu Wrote:became well known

become as well know.


"known" is a modifier that applies to nouns; "know" is a verb. so, the first of these is correct, and the second is not.

if you're asking about the "as", that creates a comparison.
San Francisco is more famous than San Jose, but not as big. --> this doesn't mean that SF isn't big, in general; it means that SF is not as big as SJ.

San Francisco is a city of considerable international significance, although it is not big.
--> this is not a comparison to any other city; it just says that SF is small.

same thing with "well known" vs. "as well known"; the latter requires a comparison to some other well-known thing/person.
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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by messi10 Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:34 pm

Hello,

Is it OK to have words between "as much" and "as" in choices A, B and C?

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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by tim Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:00 am

Yes. That construction alone is not what makes those answer choices wrong.
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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by yuanhongzhi0830 Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:35 am

Hi,I have a little question here
Since "A become as well known for X as for Y" is acceptable.
So the following sentences are acceptable expressions, right?
1.California is both well known for the sunshine and for the beach.
2.You can either improve your Englsh from reading English newspaper or from speaking to a native.
The omission is allowed in the above sentences, right?
Thanks a lot, I learned so much here.
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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by harishmullapudi Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:59 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
GMAT S Wrote:Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tuscan’s work by 30 year, became well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.

(A)well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax
(B)well known as much for having an eccentric personality as for skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
(C)well known as much because of her eccentric personality as she was for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
(D)as well known for having an eccentric personality as having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax.
(E)as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.


choice a: bad parallelism
because of... is not parallel to for...

choice c: extremely bad parallelism
- one part is a phrase (because of ...), and the other part is a complete clause (she was for her ...)
- same issue as choice a, because vs. for

choice d: bad parallelism
- you can't get rid of the 'for' in the second part (it should be '...as for having...')
- wordy (compare with the compact wording in choice e)



"well known as much because of having an eccentric personality as for having skillfully rendered popular public figures in wax "

Ron, in the above sentence... if we replace 'for' with 'because of', then is the parallelism error corrected?

If not please explain how to correct the parallelism.
My problem is, I can correct the parallelism if we have single and two-word parallelism markers such as 'and' , 'either.. or...'.
But I'm having problem with parallelism markers such as 'as much as', 'as good as'. Please help me understand it.
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Re: Patience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit

by jlucero Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:54 pm

yuanhongzhi0830 Wrote:Hi,I have a little question here
Since "A become as well known for X as for Y" is acceptable.
So the following sentences are acceptable expressions, right?
1.California is both well known for the sunshine and for the beach.
2.You can either improve your Englsh from reading English newspaper or from speaking to a native.
The omission is allowed in the above sentences, right?
Thanks a lot, I learned so much here.


Not quite. The original has its parallel markers right before two parallel elements:

A become as well known for X as for Y

In both of your sentences, your parallel markers aren't followed by the parallel elements:

WRONG: California is both well known for the sunshine and for the beach.

Right: California is well known both for the sunshine and for the beach.

WRONG: You can either improve your English from reading English newspaper or from speaking to a native.

Right: You can improve your English either from reading English newspaper or from speaking to a native.
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