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Permutation of subset of a set with repeated elements

by ronaldramlan Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:06 pm

Hi,

Can anyone help me on how to calculate the permutation of a subset with repeated elements?

For instance, if one needs to choose 3 letters out of 7-letter set {A,A,A,B,B,C,D}, how many ways (different positions count) can one have?

Thanks ..

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Re: Permutation of subset of a set with repeated elements

by bachiter Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:06 pm

For instance, if one needs to choose 3 letters out of 7-letter set {A,A,A,B,B,C,D}, how many ways (different positions count) can one have?


It will be C(7,3)/(3!*2!) this is if u have to choose.
If u have to arrange the it will be 7!/(3!*2!).
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Re: Permutation of subset of a set with repeated elements

by shiven.bhandari Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:37 pm

I believe it is

P (7, 3)/(3! * 2!) because the order counts.

May be an expert could shed more light..
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Re: Permutation of subset of a set with repeated elements

by ronaldramlan Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:56 am

Thanks, guys.
Originally, I thought that either C(7,3)/(3!*2!) or P(7,3)/(3!*2!) would work, but then I realized that none of them results in an integer, an impossible outcome for such question.
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Re: Permutation of subset of a set with repeated elements

by mschwrtz Wed May 12, 2010 12:38 am

Hmm... I don't think that you'll ever see anything quite like this on the GMAT, but here you go,

Consider how many letters the words might have in common: three, XXX; two, XXY; or none, XYZ. For each group of three common letters, there is one "word." For each group of two common letters, there are three (3!/2!) "words," XXY, XYX, and YXX. For each group with no common letters there are six (3!) "words," XYZ, XZY, YXZ, YZX, ZXY, and ZYX.

All that remains is to figure out how many groups there are of each type. There is one group of type XXX (AAA); there are six groups of type XXY (AA and any of B, C, D, and BB and any of A, C, D); and there are four groups of type XYZ (4!/3!, or just four different letters any one of which could be left out).

So...

1 group of type XXX times 1 "word" per group = 1 word.
6 group of type XXY times 3 "words" per group = 18 word.
4 group of type XYZ times 4 "words" per group = 24 word.

43 "word" all together.