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program to eradicate smallpox has stimulated experts

by Saurabh Malpani Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:58 pm

The success of the program to eradicate smallpox has stimulated experts to pursue what they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of the other infections such as measles and yaws.

a) what they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of the other infections such as

b) what they had not previously considered a possibility - better control, if not eradication, of such infections like

c) something they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of such infections as

d) something not considered a previous possibility - better control and perhaps eradication, of other infections such as

e) the possibility of what they had not previously considered - better control and possibly eradication of infections like

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What's the Key difference between A and C?

Is "other" in A or the TENSE=HAD
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by Guest Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:22 pm

What's the role of What..."what they had not previously considered possible

Is this what kind of Construction generally wrong on the GMAT?

I have seen many questions that have this "WHAT ...." Construction as wrong answer.

Please Explain
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by RonPurewal Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:57 am

Anonymous Wrote:What's the role of What..."what they had not previously considered possible

Is this what kind of Construction generally wrong on the GMAT?

I have seen many questions that have this "WHAT ...." Construction as wrong answer.

Please Explain


when you're tabulating wrong answers, never, never forget that 80 percent of all answer choices are wrong. therefore, if you simply observe grammatical patterns that occur in wrong answers, you might wrongly conclude that just about everything is 80 percent incorrect.

nothing is fundamentally wrong with the 'what' construction you're mentioning. in some sentences, it's among the best options, if not the best option outright:
the reality of small-town life was nothing like what i had pictured.
there are other ways to structure this sentence, but this way is certainly correct, and is one of the best and most concise ways to phrase it.

however, the 'what' construction is problematic in this sentence, because, in general, 'what' conveys a sense of exclusivity / uniqueness. 'what they had not considered possible' implies that there is only one thing satisfying that description, in contrast to 'something...' which admits the possibility of many other such things.

if the above is not clear, consider the difference between the meanings of the following two sentences:
a big family is what i've always wanted. --> this has been my primary goal in life, if not my only goal in life
a big family is something i've always wanted. --> in addition to a nice fast car, hundreds of leather-bound books, and a refrigerator full of finnish beer.

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the biggest bugbear in choice a is the word 'the', which creates an image of a definite set of other infections. consider these two sentences as an analogy:
our son has always chosen football over the other sports. --> implication: our son is choosing football from a known list of options
our son has always chosen football over other sports. --> implication: our son is choosing football over any other sport that could possibly exist

choice c avoids this problem by saying simply 'such infections as'.
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by Guest Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:39 pm

What is the issue with "D"? What is grammatical error in this ans choice?

Apologies for restarting the thread.
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by RonPurewal Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:04 am

Anonymous Wrote:What is the issue with "D"? What is grammatical error in this ans choice?

Apologies for restarting the thread.


the first part - 'something not considered a previous possibility' - has a substantively different meaning from the original, in addition to being generally awkward. in particular, 'previous possibility' carries a meaning roughly equivalent to 'was a possibility before, but isn't anymore'. that is not what is meant.

there also needs to be a comma between 'control' and 'and', but that might just be a transcription error (as the gmat very rarely picks on punctuation).
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by Anon Sat May 10, 2008 7:42 pm

"had not previously"

Isn't this redundant... as we can easily say "had" implies past ...

Please explain
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by RonPurewal Thu May 15, 2008 4:03 am

Anon Wrote:"had not previously"

Isn't this redundant... as we can easily say "had" implies past ...

Please explain
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apparently not.

we could argue this issue for a while, but it's clear that the standards set by the gmat test writers allow this expression (as proved beyond a doubt by this problem). so, regardless of whether it seems redundant to you, file it away in your head as an acceptable expression.

it definitely serves to create a clear demarcation between the former situation (not considered possible) and the subsequent situation (considered possible); that distinction would be nowhere near as clear without the 'previously'.
but at the end of the day, the only thing that really matters is that the gmat uses this expression, so you can (and should) too.
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by cesar.rodriguez.blanco Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:41 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
Anonymous Wrote:What is the issue with "D"? What is grammatical error in this ans choice?

Apologies for restarting the thread.


the first part - 'something not considered a previous possibility' - has a substantively different meaning from the original, in addition to being generally awkward. in particular, 'previous possibility' carries a meaning roughly equivalent to 'was a possibility before, but isn't anymore'. that is not what is meant.

there also needs to be a comma between 'control' and 'and', but that might just be a transcription error (as the gmat very rarely picks on punctuation).


There is no comma in the answer choice.
Can anyone explain the comma issue?
Thanks!
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by RonPurewal Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:33 am

cesar.rodriguez.blanco Wrote:There is no comma in the answer choice.
Can anyone explain the comma issue?
Thanks!


there are only 2 valid possibilities here:

(1) "and perhaps eradication" is just a parenthetical thought. if this is the case, then it should be set off by TWO commas (one on either side).

(2) "and perhaps eradication" is considered essential to the meaning of the sentence. if this is the case, then there should be no commas at all.

the difference between these two is completely rhetorical (i.e., based on intended emphasis / meaning), so the gmat won't require you to distinguish between them. however, there are no other legitimate possibilities. you can't use only one comma here.
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Re: Re:

by josefdong Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:43 am

RonPurewal Wrote:
cesar.rodriguez.blanco Wrote:There is no comma in the answer choice.
Can anyone explain the comma issue?
Thanks!


there are only 2 valid possibilities here:



Hi Ron, I just eliminate A because of "the". I think "such as" just highlights "other infections" as a general group of infections, not as a specific one, so you should not use "the other infections" at all. For example,

Cellphones, such as iphones and galaxy notes, are getting smarter nowadays.

But, we do not say : The cellphones, such as iphones and galaxy notes, are getting smarter nowadays. When we make examples, we usually do not specify a certain group of cellphones.

Am I right? Need your help.

Sorry, I missed your words above that are about "the". Now I get it. But I do have other problems about this question:

Although you've mentioned above that "what" conveys a sense of exclusivity / uniqueness while "something" just admits other such things, I cannot easily identify what the intended meaning of the sentence is. After all, there is not strong evidence that indicates experts in the sentence did not own only one not-possible thought. So, I think shifting from 'what' to 'something' is not justified because that action changes the original meaning without solid reasons.

What do you think?
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by RonPurewal Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:57 am

josefdong Wrote:there is not strong evidence that indicates experts in the sentence did not own only one not-possible thought.


The alternative idea is "there was exactly one thing in the world that scientists thought to be impossible". That's an absurd idea, so we can assume that it's not a thing.


So, I think shifting from 'what' to 'something' is not justified because that action changes the original meaning without solid reasons.


The original meaning is not sacrosanct. If a choice has a reasonable meaning, then the meaning is fine; if it doesn't, the meaning is not fine. Period. There is absolutely nothing special about which choice happens to be choice A.