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to do vs for doing

by thanghnvn Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:07 am

the following problem is posted on beatthegmat and gmat club forum but no full explanation is given. Ron, Manhantan experts, pls help.

The question is when to use "to do" and when to use "for doing"
(the first question seems to be from gmatprep. the second from og). I will check whether the first question is from gmatprep. If it is, I will post this problem in the subforum "gmatprep".

New genetic evidence-together with recent studies of elephants' skeletons, tusks, and other anatomical features-//provide compelling support for classifying//Africa's forest elephants and its savanna elephants as separate species.


C.provides compelling support to the classification of

D.provides compelling support for classifying

E.provides compelling support to classify

Q 11, og 11

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Re: to do vs for doing

by jlucero Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:13 pm

Here's the way C, D, and E are used in this first problem:

(C) Evidence provides support to an idea.
(D) Evidence provides support for an idea.
(E) Evidence provides support (to classify) something.

D is correct here because you want to provide support for an idea- "classifying the two elephants as different species."

C- If you provide support to X, you are giving something to X: I provide support to my mom (I give something to my mom).

E- Is idiomatically incorrect. By placing a verb after the preposition "to" you create a confusing sentence where it looks like "to classify" is being used as a verb. You wouldn't provide support to donate, but rather provide support to (the idea of) donating.
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Re: to do vs for doing

by thanghnvn Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:34 pm

I learn gmat to take MBA

is correct sentence

I learn gmat for taking MBA

is wrong sentence.

why D is correct in the following?
New genetic evidence-together with recent studies of elephants' skeletons, tusks, and other anatomical features-//provide compelling support for classifying//Africa's forest elephants and its savanna elephants as separate species.


C.provides compelling support to the classification of

D.provides compelling support for classifying

E.provides compelling support to classify

E is wrong because E means " evidence provide support in order that evidence classify". This is not logic. the logic/intended meaning is "evidence provide support for someone to classify" . Am I correct in this point ?

Can I say that " to do " is used to show purpose of the subject of the first verb but "for doing " is used to show purpose of other persons ??? I am confused,
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Re: to do vs for doing

by jlucero Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:34 pm

thanghnvn Wrote:E is wrong because E means " evidence provide support in order that evidence classify". This is not logic. the logic/intended meaning is "evidence provide support for someone to classify" . Am I correct in this point ?


Yes. It doesn't say a specific person will classify, but rather that support for classifying these two species separately. But your sentence makes logical sense.

thanghnvn Wrote:Can I say that " to do " is used to show purpose of the subject of the first verb but "for doing " is used to show purpose of other persons ??? I am confused,


Different issue altogether. To + verb = the infinitive form of a verb. To + noun = prepositional phrase.
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Re: to do vs for doing

by AmandaS355 Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:32 am

I have question with this problem as well.

New genetic evidence—together with recent studies of elephants’ skeletons, tusks, and other anatomical features—provide compelling support for classifying Africa’s forest elephants and its savanna elephants as separate species.

C. provides compelling support to the classification of
D. provides compelling support for classifying
E. provides compelling support to classify

the correct answer is D.
I understand the difference between D and E is that,
"to do" emphasizes the purpose of the action,
while "for doing" emphasizes the use.
BUT I don't know why C is wrong?
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Re: to do vs for doing

by RonPurewal Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:29 pm

"Providing support to ___" implies that "___" is a person/organization/etc. trying to accomplish something.

E.g., Volunteers provided support to the Red Cross during the Hurricane Katrina disaster relief efforts.

Doesn't work here.
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Re: to do vs for doing

by KathyL227 Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:01 pm

Hi Ron.

How about the other two?

Thanks.
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Re: to do vs for doing

by RonPurewal Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:35 am

D is the correct answer, so, just think about the intended meaning and you'll understand how it works (since the correct answer ALWAYS conveys the intended meaning).

the construction in E isn't really a thing.