Q21 - Joel: A myth is a narrative

[tamwaiman]

I chose (B), which Giselle use an analogy (human body & machine) to dispute Joel's argument. I don't deny (E) better, but I have no idea why (B) is wrong.

Thank you.

[ManhattanPrepLSAT1]

Tough question! Thanks for bringing it to the forum.

I wouldn't say that Giselle advances an analogous position. Instead, I'd say that she provides a counter example. Joel is saying that "myths are not generally told in the modern world." Giselle disagrees with that idea and provides a counter example ("the myth of the machine") that just so happens to be an analogy between a machine and the human body. Regardless, it's not an analogous position. If anything, it's an opposing example that happens to be an analogy!

Does that answer your question here?

[dx369]

What I do not understand about (E) is the part saying "calls into question part of Jeol's definition of myth".

In my opinion, although Giselle mentioned that "this may not be narrative", I do not think he mentioned it intentionally for the purpose of challenging Jeol's definition of myths.

Could you please explain a little bit about that part?

[dx369]

Tough question! Thanks for bringing it to the forum.

I wouldn't say that Giselle advances an analogous position. Instead, I'd say that she provides a counter example. Joel is saying that "myths are not generally told in the modern world." Giselle disagrees with that idea and provides a counter example ("the myth of the machine") that just so happens to be an analogy between a machine and the human body. Regardless, it's not an analogous position. If anything, it's an opposing example that happens to be an analogy!

Does that answer your question here?

What I do not understand about (E) is the part saying "calls into question part of Jeol's definition of myth".

In my opinion, although Giselle mentioned that "this may not be narrative", I do not think he mentioned it intentionally for the purpose of challenging Jeol's definition of myths.

Could you please explain a little bit about that part?

[ManhattanPrepLSAT1]

What I do not understand about (E) is the part saying "calls into question part of Jeol's definition of myth".

In my opinion, although Giselle mentioned that "this may not be narrative", I do not think he mentioned it intentionally for the purpose of challenging Jeol's definition of myths.

Could you please explain a little bit about that part?

Happy to!

Does it really matter whether Giselle mentioned the counterexample intentionally for the purpose of challenging Joel's definition of a myth? Answer choice (E) never says that it's intentional. Answer choice (E) only says that Giselle's response does challenge Joel's definition of a myth. And for that reason answer choice (E) is perfectly accurate. Giselle's response does offer a counterexample. And since that counterexample is not a narrative, it also undermines Joel's definition of a myth.

Hope that helps!

[sweetsecret]

Can someone explain A and C to me? I understand why B and D are wrong, but I don't understand these two answer choices.

[adisadeliovsky]

I originally chose B, but I am seeing why E is correct now. With B, Giselle is not necessarily ADVANCING an analogous position, to show a weakness in joel's position, instead she's is calling into a question a part of joel's definition of the myth, what part exactly? The part that joel says, "myths are not generally told in the modern world because there are no longer bodies of generally accepted truths that can be in this way".

Giselle says wait!! that's not true, they are told in the modern way, FOR EXAMPLE (this is the major indicator that a counter example is being put to use) there's a myth that we see the human body as a machine, and what do you have it, doctors TO THIS DAY cannot deny the truth of this myth. Hence, joel's definition of myth that discusses their use in the modern world not being accepted as general truths is called into question, because as Giselle provides in her example doctors of this day cannot even deny the truth of the body as a machine myth.

B is the trick answer, especially under timed conditions when you are rushed and trying to reach question 26 in time. Remember that LSAT is subtle and plays on the fact that you are often rushed by the time you get to the questions in the 20's.

I hope this helps someone struggling between B and E!