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Q22

by shaun_davis5 Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:33 pm

Didn't get Q22 correct. Tried a second time and still missed it.
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Re: Q22

by ManhattanPrepLSAT1 Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:13 pm

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Re: Q22

by jodidio.r Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:41 pm

Again, I am confused why answer choice (E) is not also valid. We know that there must be at least three features, and that M must supply at least two CONSECUTIVE spots between slots 2 and 5. Therefore, either 3 or 5 must be marketing? correct? The arrangement of slots could be:

I M M G G
or
I G G M M
or
I G M M G

What am I missing here?
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Re: Q22

by ohthatpatrick Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:31 pm

Because slot 1 is NOT F or T, we know that there is no F or T being used.

And we know we're only getting ONE industry feature (and that Part/All of it is in slot 1).

So to get our three features, we'll have to use 2 M's.

But, the language of the question stem doesn't say that I is ONLY in slot 1.

The industry feature could occupy slot 1, slots 1 and 2, or slots 1, 2, and 3.

The rest of the issue will involve two M's. These M's might fill in the remaining slots or there could be graphics involved.

a handful of possibilities:
I M M g g
I g g M M
I g M g M
[ I - I - I ] M M

Since our goal on Must be True is to come up with counterexamples, I'll just write a counterexample that is legal but disproves each wrong answer.

(A) I M M g g

(B) same as (A)

(C) I g g M M

(D) Legit. If we avoided 2, 3, and 4, then we would have I _ _ _ M
We wouldn't be able to use the 2 M's we know we need to.

(E) I M g M g

It seems like you got mixed up from the language of the setup. If you use 2 M's, they don't have to be consecutive.

You're thinking of the rule that's saying "if a feature occupies more than one slot, they have to be consecutive".

That's saying that, for example, the industry feature in this issue might be 1, 2, or 3 slots long. But if it's 2 or 3 slots long, those slots have to be consecutive.

What we're looking at with
I M G M G

is TWO separate marketing features, each of them one slot long.

In fact, if you were thinking that when you wrote
I M M G G
that the two M's were part of the SAME feature, then we would be breaking the rule that requires at least three features.

You would have only 2 in that scenario.
I [M M] G G

Does this make sense?
 
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Re: Q22

by ganbayou Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:11 am

Hi,
I'm very confused with the language in the stimulus...
So when it says "any feature occupying more than one slot must occupy consecutively numbered slots"
does it mean 1? or 2? or both can happen?? (the difference is the number of features)

1. X[YY][ZZ]
2. X[Y][Y][Z][Z]

Also for question 22, why is IMGMG allowed? Because of that rule above, I thought if there is the same feature appeared in multiple slots, they have to be consecutively...if there is G between them that would not mean consecuitively right???

I don't understand why they make game like this...if ppl cannot understand what rule means how can we solve the game???
I'm so confused...would you please explain?
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Re: Q22

by JakeY236 Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:46 pm

ganbayou Wrote:Hi,
I'm very confused with the language in the stimulus...
So when it says "any feature occupying more than one slot must occupy consecutively numbered slots"
does it mean 1? or 2? or both can happen?? (the difference is the number of features)

1. X[YY][ZZ]
2. X[Y][Y][Z][Z]

Also for question 22, why is IMGMG allowed? Because of that rule above, I thought if there is the same feature appeared in multiple slots, they have to be consecutively...if there is G between them that would not mean consecuitively right???

I don't understand why they make game like this...if ppl cannot understand what rule means how can we solve the game???
I'm so confused...would you please explain?
THank you


IMGMG is allowed because:

The rule reads "Any feature occupying more than one slot must occupy consecutively numbered slots"
This rule is triggered by any ONE feature that is longer than one slot, such as an M feature that occupied spots 2 and 3

However, this rule is not triggered by TWO SEPARATE M features that occupy TWO SEPARATE slots, like in a IMGMG scenario.

So basically, it's a subtle difference in language, where "any feature occupying more than one slot" =/= "any feature appearing in multiple slots".
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Re: Q22

by LolaC289 Mon May 28, 2018 5:09 am

I misread rule#1("any feature occupying more than...") as well. Since I am not a native speaker, for me this sentence just says if you take up 2 or more slots, these slots have to be consecutive. Namely, if you are a single feature and you take up no just 1 slot, the slots must be consecutive(what I have assumed in the first place anyway...), and if you appear more than once you have to appear consecutively.

I guess the second part is what went wrong. But isn't this sentence prone to misreading in itself(lovely native speakers please help out :( )? Luckily in this question, if E is the right answer then D must be right as well, and D seems to be more "have-to-be-right" for me so I got it right anyway.