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by noah Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:03 pm

banyrags Wrote:On Q. 3 why B is incorrect. If G is 602, that leads to L in 603, F/H in 604/605, S & M in 601.

I think you've answered your own question! For 604 (and 605) we don't know if it's F or H. We need to have the order completely determined.

(A) leaves open the H/S issue in 604/605.

(B) leaves open the F/H issue in 604/605.

(C) leaves open whether 604 is F or S.

(D) leaves open the F/H issue in 604/605.
 
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Re: Q3

by RodrigoA220 Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:26 pm

Hi!

This whole game took me much longer than I wanted it to. I'm wondering - was this question simply a plug and chug? I ended up doing that here, and since the correct answer is E, it took a looot of time to get the correct answer.
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by ohthatpatrick Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:02 pm

Yes, "fully determined" questions are usually just a matter of plug n' chug.

You see whether the answer triggers anything, and if it leaves you with any uncertainty about what happens next, bail and move on to the next answer.

The correct answer triggers a cascade of domino reactions that fills in the whole board. So don't linger too long on any answer choice on a first pass. You might be torturing yourself by thinking, "What do I have to do next" when in reality you've got options.

The correct answer should have more internal momentum to it, where each new placement you get unlocks another domino that falls.
 
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Re: Q3

by MargaretY87 Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:59 pm

After reading these posts, I'm still unclear as to why E is the correct answer because there is uncertainty about the placement of the G-L-F and M. We know that M is earlier than 604. However, we don't know M's relationship to the G-L-F chunk: couldn't M go before G? Between G and L? Between L and F, or after F? In other words, aren't there multiple possibilities for the first four spaces?

M G L F
G M L F
G L M F
G L F M

As a result, because the different letters don't fall into specific places, how is E the correct answer?
 
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Re: Q3

by LorraineH771 Tue May 19, 2020 11:40 pm

MargaretY87 Wrote:After reading these posts, I'm still unclear as to why E is the correct answer because there is uncertainty about the placement of the G-L-F and M. We know that M is earlier than 604. However, we don't know M's relationship to the G-L-F chunk: couldn't M go before G? Between G and L? Between L and F, or after F? In other words, aren't there multiple possibilities for the first four spaces?

M G L F
G M L F
G L M F
G L F M

As a result, because the different letters don't fall into specific places, how is E the correct answer?



E is the correct answer because H has to go in either 4 or 5. Now that S is in the 4th slot, H must be in the fifth. Since we know G-L-F, and there are 3 slots left open, it is clear that it is M-G L F S H. That M is with G on your diagram, since 601 is the only one that can have two monuments.
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Re: Q3

by smiller Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:54 pm

MargaretY87 Wrote:After reading these posts, I'm still unclear as to why E is the correct answer because there is uncertainty about the placement of the G-L-F and M. We know that M is earlier than 604. However, we don't know M's relationship to the G-L-F chunk: couldn't M go before G? Between G and L? Between L and F, or after F? In other words, aren't there multiple possibilities for the first four spaces?

M G L F
G M L F
G L M F
G L F M

As a result, because the different letters don't fall into specific places, how is E the correct answer?


Apologies for our slow reply here. A few questions slipped by us recently.

LorraineH771's reply is correct. There are only three years before 604, not four: 601, 602, and 603. G, L, and F will have to be placed in these three years, each in a separate year. M must be placed in 601 along with G. Remembering that there are only five years in the game, and that the first year will always contain two elements, is crucial when answering the questions. It's unusual to have an ordering game like this where one of the positions contains two elements, but it happens from time to time.